AR15 builds

[Blue Tick]

Some big fat guy in a red suit and a beard left me a DPMS AR15 oracle. just wondering if any of you have one, or some good sites for build-outs. Also, a great place to buy some decent 5.56/.233 ammo?

[aztrooper]

So you got a complete parts kit and want to put it together?  I have built one, it's pretty easy and I just got the multi-tool for Christmas to do it.  Do you have a bench vise?  Let me know if I can help.  I live in Province.

Bob

[Blue Tick]

Already assembled, its a Oracle A-3 build-out, just wanted some experienced input for rails, hand guards, optics, bi-pods etc. The rifle is total stock,incl. no iron sights. Need some input on websires and such on where to research and accessorize.

[aztrooper]

It all depends on what you like.  I don't personally care for the 4 or more rail look or feel.  Even with the covers on the rails, that makes it larger than I like.  I got a Don Tel vented hand guard for my 6.8SPC build  http://www.del-ton.com/Free_Float_Tube_p/hg1097.htm.  I really like the MI SS hand guard  http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=270  and will probably get one to replace the Don Tel later on.   It comes with the full length top rail and they send two other length rails that you can put where you want them.  Yankee Hill also makes one like the MI  http://www.milsurpstuff.com/proddetail.asp?prod=YHM5008TJ.  I am going to put a different barrel on my S&W M&P 15 MOE.  Same length but in mid length gas block with a heavier barrel.  It will be the same company who I bought my 6.8SPC barrel from.  It will be the 16" 5.56 SOCOM barrel.  http://www.ar15performance.com/barrels_and_bolt_barrel_combos.  I buy my ammo where ever it is cheapest.  You can find some good deals on Gunbroker.com on ammo.  There are lots of AR forums, here is one that I like that is about the AR-15. http://www.ar15.com/forums/b/3_AR_15.html.   I'm on another also that is about the AR-15 platform but in 6.8SPC caliber.   Anything else just ask.

[Blue Tick]

It all depends on what you like.  I don't personally care for the 4 or more rail look or feel.  Even with the covers on the rails, that makes it larger than I like.  I got a Don Tel vented hand guard for my 6.8SPC build  http://www.del-ton.com/Free_Float_Tube_p/hg1097.htm.  I really like the MI SS hand guard  http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=270  and will probably get one to replace the Don Tel later on.   It comes with the full length top rail and they send two other length rails that you can put where you want them.  Yankee Hill also makes one like the MI  http://www.milsurpstuff.com/proddetail.asp?prod=YHM5008TJ.  I am going to put a different barrel on my S&W M&P 15 MOE.  Same length but in mid length gas block with a heavier barrel.  It will be the same company who I bought my 6.8SPC barrel from.  It will be the 16" 5.56 SOCOM barrel.  http://www.ar15performance.com/barrels_and_bolt_barrel_combos.  I buy my ammo where ever it is cheapest.  You can find some good deals on Gunbroker.com on ammo.  There are lots of AR forums, here is one that I like that is about the AR-15. http://www.ar15.com/forums/b/3_AR_15.html.   I'm on another also that is about the AR-15 platform but in 6.8SPC caliber.   Anything else just ask.

thank you, this is a great starting point.

[Baddeye]

Here's my build. Pretty much a K.I.S.S. rifle for the time being. I can provide details if interested.

I started another build but I'm on the fence what I want to do with it.  Dunno if I want to build a 6.8SPCII mid-length or a 6.5 Grendel 24" or something else entirely.

http://www.ar15.com is a pretty good resource once you wade through all the garbage and whining. 

Here are a few links to some decent quality parts providers:
www.bravocompanyusa.com
www.adcofirearms.com
www.brownells.com
http://www.colemantyler.com/  <-- Local in Casa Grande (I haven't bought anything from him yet, so I can't say if he's all that good or not)
 

[aztrooper]

Looks good Baddeye.  Mine is a 6.8SPC using an AR Performance 16" mid-length barrel, low profile gas block, Aero Precession stripped upper and lower, upper parts from Midway USA, lower parts kit from Palmetto State Armory (PSA MOE lower parts kit), A2 stock, AR Stoner extended one piece scope mount and mid length vented handguard from Del Ton.  I like Midway USA vs Brownells as there parts are less expensive.  Here is the link for the 6.8 forum,  http://68forums.com/forums/forum.php  Lots of good information there.  I am going to use mine for hunting.  My next build will be a short barrel AR with a silencer.  I am working with Arizona Civil Defense League now to get the use of silencers made legal for hunting in Arizona.  There are 23 States that allow the use of silencers for hunting with three of the four States bordering us allowing it. 

[scandalousr1]

u may wanna look in too 300 blackout... its just a barrel swap...since i do reloading, i can form 556 brass into 300 blackouts.. saves me lot on $$$

[kiss tactical]

I love the  300 blackout. come by the shop when I open and I will tell you more.

[aztrooper]

On the 6.8spc forum, they are developing a new round that uses the .270 (6. bullet and the 223 case.  That ought to be a nice round also.
Bob

[Hooch]

An AR15 that weighs as much as an M1a should be an M1a lol

[Thomasmagnum]

Just my .02 from a guy with a little bit of inside industry insight....
The .300 AAC Blackout is likely to be a flash in the pan. Ballistically its identical to the existing .300 Whisper(on the .221 fireball case) or the more common .300/.223 which have never really caught on. Remington is backing among a fair bit of others, but mainly Remington leading the charge so it is making a lot of noise in the market right now, but in a market that is already really heavy with botique AR based cartridges its likely not going to be a big hit.
Factor in the vairous 6.5mm/.264 AR based cartridges that already very popular and whip the all .30 cal AR based rounds significantly in many ballistic areas(S.D., B.C. wind bucking, etc.) and you really have a round that is destined to end up as another "also ran" in the .300 AAC Blackout.

For those that doubt Remington's afinity for dumping proprietary cartridges that have moderate success look at the previously touted SAUM family of rounds.

Not trying to knock anyone's views or likes. Just offering my .02, and something to think about when considering long term availabilties.
Take it for what its worth.

[kiss tactical]

With 6 or 7 big gun makers are now offering a gun in 300 blackout and more on the way. I don't see it a "flash in the pan" will reach the 6.8? I don't know. What I do know is that sub loads will cycle in my AR with a can on it. Can do that with my 223 and can. I have used my black out to take a 400 pound hog and a nice size deer. I don't see it going away. I get  3 or 4 calls a week about black ar's. I don't get that with 6.8.

[Thomasmagnum]

I am not saying it will disappear or be discontinued. What I am saying is that there is a lot of buzz about the cartridge right now. It doesn't tread any really new ground when compared to other cartridges that have been introduced for the AR platform. I think that in the most likely situation it will become another niche cartridge.

There was the same buzz about the 6.8 SPC when it was shiny and new, but if you look at sales they have sagged quite a bit from then.

The .300 AAC Blackout will likely catch on with guys who like it for their various reasons or specific needs i.e. having a can on their gun etc. Its a good cartridge with very few flies on it, but it ain't likely to be the new standard by a long shot. When its not the new fad and the sales aren't huge like they are initially you will see some of the committed manufacturers drop the variety of offerings.

[aztrooper]

I didn't build my AR 6.8SPC to have as a personal defense rifle with 20 magazines and thousands of rounds, I built it for one specific purpose and that is to hunt with.  Fits my needs,  besides, anyone that thinks that an
AR15 is a good home defense firearm needs to rethink, and let me know where they live so I'm not living to close to them.  A shotgun is the most effective home defense firearm.  Great psychological advantage and it will not penetrate the bad guy, your house, and then my house.  Just my opinion after 21 years in law enforcement.