Statement from Councilmember Julia Gusse

[mallardisme]

It's an open forum, we can and will piss & moan about anything & everything....right?   I'm not going to comment on the OP but seriously, it's an anonymous open forum where bitching is one of the top reasons people come to these sort of places....no?  

Kim, I really thought about this. I disagree. Many folks here, including you and I, are far from anonymous. The forum here is a lot more than bitching and moaning. There have been some good things out of here and a lot of actual involvement actually realized. (And even a lot more to come very soon)
....Now there is another forum out this way that specializes in pissing and moaning. Heck, that other forum even validates what I would call stalkers.

But that is not at this URL.

[Desert Dweller]

Personally I think she is only there to get back at her former employer. She banked and won on the fact that most Maricopa voters would vote based on the number of campaign signs they saw.

She was right.

...and key chains.  and free tacos.

Sheeesh!

[Pet Social Worker]

yes, yes, not to diminish the good that does come out of these forums. I've made some friends I hope & pray last a lifetime BUT, I think it's perfectly legitimate to allow the bitch & moan component (within reason obviously) since anonymity is a factor in many post. 

[AzSandSlinger]

She banked and won on the fact that most Maricopa voters would vote based on the number of campaign signs they saw.

Which brings me back to the point of making electoral signage illegal... as well as political parties.. People (lazily) are voting more and more based on name recognition and party affiliation than actual positions.. You force the voters do homework on candidates and you will see actual change.. Don't.. and you'll keep returning to the same old poop.. what is the definition of insane again? oh yah, making the same choice over and over... and expecting a different result.. lol..

Americans need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop voting based on party, religion, race and popularity.. Americans need to realize that the color of someones skin and/or the designation next to their name ("R,""D,""I", etc.) has dick to do with the job they can do..

-Shane

[Maricopa4ever]

She banked and won on the fact that most Maricopa voters would vote based on the number of campaign signs they saw.

Which brings me back to the point of making electoral signage illegal... as well as political parties.. People (lazily) are voting more and more based on name recognition and party affiliation than actual positions.. You force the voters do homework on candidates and you will see actual change.. Don't.. and you'll keep returning to the same old poop.. what is the definition of insane again? oh yah, making the same choice over and over... and expecting a different result.. lol..

Americans need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop voting based on party, religion, race and popularity.. Americans need to realize that the color of someones skin and/or the designation next to their name ("R,""D,""I", etc.) has dick to do with the job they can do..

-Shane

You actually make a good point here.  Too bad Americans are too lazy to do most of that.  And too bad people running for office will tell you whatever you want to hear to get elected.

[Pet Social Worker]

I'm not sure where I stand on the signage issue but I do agree that it's hard to be ok w/ such laziness when we get a HUGE newsprint book in the mail with ALL of those campaigning in it and usually newspapers print a run-down of all candidates as well.   Even 30 minutes the day before an election can make someone an informed voter. 

[AzSandSlinger]

"newsprints" and articles mean nothing.. all it does is further promote what the media wants the population to "hear" and "see. "  YOU, of all people, should realize the power and possible corruption from so-called publications that provide a "run-down" of candidates.

This is precisely why I oppose signage as well as any "campaigning" short of personal meet and greets..

name-recognition and/or party-affiliation is all people vote for anymore.. this provides for a seriously sad state of affairs for our country as a whole..

I care about what a candidate stands for.. I couldn't give a poop what party they are from.. and I couldn't care that the local Police Union and Firefighters Union support them.. I want the RIGHT person for the job..



-Shane

[mallardisme]

That's where I miss the LA Times. They would make their endorsments and I would vote pretty much the opposite. LOL

[Baddeye]

She banked and won on the fact that most Maricopa voters would vote based on the number of campaign signs they saw.

Which brings me back to the point of making electoral signage illegal... as well as political parties.. People (lazily) are voting more and more based on name recognition and party affiliation than actual positions.. You force the voters do homework on candidates and you will see actual change.. Don't.. and you'll keep returning to the same old poop.. what is the definition of insane again? oh yah, making the same choice over and over... and expecting a different result.. lol..

Americans need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop voting based on party, religion, race and popularity.. Americans need to realize that the color of someones skin and/or the designation next to their name ("R,""D,""I", etc.) has dick to do with the job they can do..

-Shane

Damn Shane, you're slipping.  You posted something I agree with that doesn't piss me off.  WTF is wrong with you? 
 

[Pet Social Worker]

IMHO the "direct from the horses mouth" listing of ALL Candidate shared info in either of our local papers has been helpful to me in the past.  NOT the media spun info, the issues that typically come out right before the election w/ info. on each & every candidate that they themselves share.

And the big newsprint book I'm talking about is the one sent with each & every candidate in it. I just sent mine to the recycle bin or I'd have it on my desk to tell you where the publication came from.
It's NOT a media sent piece. 

[AzSandSlinger]

Damn Shane, you're slipping.  You posted something I agree with that doesn't piss me off.  WTF is wrong with you? 
 

I'm not slipping... I'm a true Goldwater conservative.. this is what I have always maintained..

It's a shame that people are too polarized by the "R" or "D" designation next to a nominee to actually vote for someone who supports their best interests..

I can only hope that gutless voters actually do some work and realize that "R" doesn't mean "conservative"... and that "D" doesn't equal "liberal"..

Funny thing is.. so-called "conservatives" rally against Affirmative Action.. but quickly denegrate any "D's" or "I's" who oppose their beliefs..

I can only hope America will wake up and realize that the "us vs. them" and the "Rep vs. Dem" mentality is all just a bullshit story to control how their puppets (the voters) vote.

Reps are not conservative.. and Dems are not liberal.. the parties as a whole are all just bullshit..

-Shane

[mallardisme]

At the end of the day, there are Rep, Dems and Inys. There is left and right. There is conservative and liberal.

However, there are many choices each person has to make that come down to right and wrong.

I am not a Goldwater conservative. He had more than a few flaws. I am not a JFK Democrat, didn't he get us involved in Nam? (which was started at the end of WWII)

I look at issues and do what I feel is right for right. In the end, I may be wrong, but I took a stand that I felt I should. I base this on my understanding of history and facts and lore.

Shane cracks me up. He is a semi liberal conservative. Not quite a moderate. That in itself is not a bad thing. However, he does lean liberal when he shushes everyone around without truly listening.



...Yes, i know I will now be picked apart for this post.

Let the beatings begin.

[Maricopa4ever]

If you have any religion Shane hates you lol

j/k      

Amnesty and Affirmative Action are bullshit and discriminatory.

Shane leans more liberal than not.  Which is fine.  

Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

[CopaDave]

You force the voters do homework on candidates and you will see actual change..

Actually, Shane, what you'll see is a marked decrease in voter turnout.  If it ain't on TV, in reality show style, most of the people now don't give a damn.

We are stuck in a Us vs Them mode until enough elected weenies cross the aisle and start voting/passing stuff that actually corrects problems that they've created.  Eventually people will start to trust, but it's going to take a LONG time, and a lot of weaning away from the public tit.

[AzSandSlinger]

If you have any religion Shane hates you lol

Goldwater opposed the religious right and even forecast the eventual downfall of the party he loved if they succumbed to it.. Reagan let them in.. and well... they succumbed..

The Republican party that was once great became some Christian-State leaning ideology hell bent on forcing religion down the throats of all Americans.. please tell me how that is "conservative?"

I believe in the Constitution.. I also believe in LESS Government.. What exactly has the Repulsive party done since Reagan to follow those beliefs?

BTW.. I don't hate people for their religion.. I hate them for forcing THEIR religion down my throat.. remember.. YOUR freedom ENDS where mine BEGINS..

-Shane